Following your passion (or not) on Underdog Empowerment podcast

Was super-fun to join Zachary Babcock on the Underdog Empowerment podcast!

Here’s how Zachary describes it:

In this interview, we break down the 4 pillars you must master to reach your potential and fulfillment. Without this, it’s incomplete.

Here are the four pillars that I talk about …

  1. skill
  2. passion
  3. purpose
  4. monetizability

You can get the podcast at Apple, Google, or right at Underdog Empowerment. Caution: there’s some language in the beginning — Zachary’s a pretty literal badass — but my section is clean 🙂

Or you can listen right here …

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John Koetsier